Hear is what I want to ass you whiney MKs that hate NTM and want to suet them to get even for things that didnt' happen at all or if they did it was a long time ago way past the statue of litigations.
I want to ass you if you belive the bible? Doesnt' it say not to suet your borther in the lord? Isnt' NTM you bother in the Lord?
I want to ass you if you want the heather to go to hell is that a good idea? Do you belive that god raised up NTM and they work for Him not you? I ass you to quit the seut.
I lvoe NTM and I hope you will here what I ass you.
Friday, December 30, 2011
Tuesday, December 27, 2011
Marry Christmass!!
What did you do for Jesus birthday we had a love offering for the missionarys and to help NTM with there legal bills which they have to pay because of all the whiney MKs who are suiting them it is a shame. Some day the MKs will be sorry and ashame of what they done and how they have tried to bring reproach on the lords name they have never learnt to forgive and move on and get over it and start trusting the lord and not going to court are they even saved?
I wonder if any of the MKs thought about Jesus on his birthday or did they just open there presence under the Christmass tree is that all they ever think about? Why dont they try and give Jesus a birthday present and ass him into there heart and stop making up stuff about NTM and telling lies and even if it really happened dont tell people because it just brings shame on the name of jesus and his church and NTM which he raised up to go to the ends of the earth and preach the gospel to the lost tirbes before the cathlics do or the Jehoovahs Whiteness or the Mormuns they are all culls and do not have the true gospel like NTM do.
So we are all prane and assing the Lord to teach those MKs to knock it up and quit the Fanda Eagles websight it is a shame and disgrace and no one belief it and did you read the good letter that the good paster wrote to the Ornery MK it did my heart good to know that there are others out their just like me and my paster and our crutch we are not alone and so isnt NTM we are all in this together to win. That letter was the best christmass present I got this year it was wonderful I put a copy in my bible.
I wish you all a marry Christmass and if you love the Lord please also love NTM and do not go to the Fanda Eagles website or encourage them they will get tired and go away soon enough and the Lords work will continue and he will build a crutch and the gates of hell will not prevail and so wont the whiney MKs so lets celebrate the good news of Jesus birth he is 2011 years old now!
Scott Ross I hope you win this law suet you are bean used of god and lets prey that NTM can get another good layer to join for free and help defense them.
I love NTM!
Thursday, December 15, 2011
Amen to this good paster!
This is the best anser I ever saw to you Fanda Eagles its just want Ive' been saying all along and I honer this paster and his love for god and how he nose the word and how to forgive he is what Christians are all about!
This paster is a babtits just like our crutch and he can spell and is smart so is that enough for you or do you just want to make fun of the foolish things of the whorl that god has chosen to share his word I am not ashame and I am proud of Pater Hegg he is for the truth of Christ and the whore situation has fallen down on Mel Wymas head and he is sorry and repanted and lets just drop it he is old give him a brake.
I assed my paster about this and he agrees and we are all preying that your sister and all the other whiney MKs will find the piece that passes all understanding in this and shut up and go away we are tired of it what part of enough do you no t understand?
God loves you have a nice day and lets put Christ back in Christmas amen?
from David Hegg David.Hegg@gracebaptist.org
to "ornerymk@gmail.com" <ornerymk@gmail.com>
date Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:58 PM
subject Mel Wyma
mailed-by gracebaptist.org
Important mainly because of the words in the message.
hide details 12:58 PM (5 hours ago)
Dear Jeff,
I received your email yesterday morning and wanted to get back to you in a timely manner. The situation surrounding New Tribes Mission and specifically Mel Wyma is one that has caused so many people immense pain. The crimes against yoursister and others are not mere suspicions but facts that cannot be denied. I recognize this, and it hits me every time I think of it like a punch to thegut.
In the fall of 2010 we were initially informed about the allegations against New Tribes and Mel Wyma. We stayed close to it, and felt that New Tribes acted responsibly in cooperating with GRACE (Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment), whose report I have fully read, and which you referenced in your email. The report's thoroughness only made the crimes more sickening. As a result, New Tribes terminated Mel Wyma. They did, however agree to continueprocessing support from churches and individuals for Mel. As a leadership team, we then had a decision to make.
In November, 2010 Mel suffered a very severe stroke that paralyzed the left side of his body. He was moved by his family to a care center where he continues to live. He has recovered somewhat from the stroke. He is in his mid-80s and we have had correspondence with him. He admits his part in what happened and agrees that his inaction, and his poor action, both were reprehensible, and has done what is possible to do at this point to assist New Tribes in the retributive process. We believe that his actions and inaction were both wrong and dangerous, and we also believe that he is repentant and forgiven. This in no way means, however, that the consequences of his sins have been cleared away.
In our discussions with New Tribes we found that their actions to admit and deal well with their responsibility were good. They mandated that 10% of Mel's monthly income would go to the fund used for restitution to the victims. This led our leadership team to decide to continue supporting Mel, knowing that he has real financial needs and that a portion of the money is going to the victims.
At the end of your email you ask a penetrating question: "Do you side with abused children or those who protect sexual predators?" Actually, it isn't that easy. As representatives of Jesus Christ we must side with both simply because God is on the side of the repentant. Of course, where there is no repentance, there can be only judgment.
We are on the side of those who have been subjected to the heinous crimes of those who prey on the weak and vulnerable. But, we also believe that God in Christ extends forgiveness to all who repent and turn to Him in sincerity and faith. So, in this case, we heartily approve of the Grace report, and of the way New Tribes is moving to accept their responsibility in all this, and do what can be done at this late date to help those whose lives have been devastated through no fault of their own.
"And we have also decided that the consequences of Mel's action and inaction have fallen down on his head. He has been humiliated and isolated, and is greatly broken by all of this, as he should be. Our place is to recognize hisrepentance, and – in light of his advanced age, precarious physical condition, and the fact that he is no longer in any position to make such a terrible decision again – provide some of the finances necessary for him to live and continue to donate something to the restitution fund. We will continue to monitor the situation and, should additional information dictate, re-evaluate our decision."
I noticed that your email is "ornerymk" and I couldn't help but chuckle. I was an "ornery pk" having grown up in a pastor's family, with all the cliches and hypocrisy that comes with that experience. But at some point I realized that the mistakes of others shouldn't become the foundation of mine. I hope that whatever your experiences were, and are, that the truth of God's grace in Jesus Christ has become the most prominent thing in your life, as you try to break the cycle and pass on something righteous and good to your kids.
Thanks again for your email, and your concern. I pray that your sister, and all the other victims and their families, can find the peace that surpasses understanding in all this.
Yours for the Truth of Christ,
David
David W. Hegg
Senior Pastor
Grace Baptist Church
david.hegg@gracebaptist.org
to "ornerymk@gmail.com" <ornerymk@gmail.com>
date Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:58 PM
subject Mel Wyma
mailed-by gracebaptist.org
Important mainly because of the words in the message.
hide details 12:58 PM (5 hours ago)
Dear Jeff,
I received your email yesterday morning and wanted to get back to you in a timely manner. The situation surrounding New Tribes Mission and specifically Mel Wyma is one that has caused so many people immense pain. The crimes against yoursister and others are not mere suspicions but facts that cannot be denied. I recognize this, and it hits me every time I think of it like a punch to thegut.
In the fall of 2010 we were initially informed about the allegations against New Tribes and Mel Wyma. We stayed close to it, and felt that New Tribes acted responsibly in cooperating with GRACE (Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment), whose report I have fully read, and which you referenced in your email. The report's thoroughness only made the crimes more sickening. As a result, New Tribes terminated Mel Wyma. They did, however agree to continueprocessing support from churches and individuals for Mel. As a leadership team, we then had a decision to make.
In November, 2010 Mel suffered a very severe stroke that paralyzed the left side of his body. He was moved by his family to a care center where he continues to live. He has recovered somewhat from the stroke. He is in his mid-80s and we have had correspondence with him. He admits his part in what happened and agrees that his inaction, and his poor action, both were reprehensible, and has done what is possible to do at this point to assist New Tribes in the retributive process. We believe that his actions and inaction were both wrong and dangerous, and we also believe that he is repentant and forgiven. This in no way means, however, that the consequences of his sins have been cleared away.
In our discussions with New Tribes we found that their actions to admit and deal well with their responsibility were good. They mandated that 10% of Mel's monthly income would go to the fund used for restitution to the victims. This led our leadership team to decide to continue supporting Mel, knowing that he has real financial needs and that a portion of the money is going to the victims.
At the end of your email you ask a penetrating question: "Do you side with abused children or those who protect sexual predators?" Actually, it isn't that easy. As representatives of Jesus Christ we must side with both simply because God is on the side of the repentant. Of course, where there is no repentance, there can be only judgment.
We are on the side of those who have been subjected to the heinous crimes of those who prey on the weak and vulnerable. But, we also believe that God in Christ extends forgiveness to all who repent and turn to Him in sincerity and faith. So, in this case, we heartily approve of the Grace report, and of the way New Tribes is moving to accept their responsibility in all this, and do what can be done at this late date to help those whose lives have been devastated through no fault of their own.
"And we have also decided that the consequences of Mel's action and inaction have fallen down on his head. He has been humiliated and isolated, and is greatly broken by all of this, as he should be. Our place is to recognize hisrepentance, and – in light of his advanced age, precarious physical condition, and the fact that he is no longer in any position to make such a terrible decision again – provide some of the finances necessary for him to live and continue to donate something to the restitution fund. We will continue to monitor the situation and, should additional information dictate, re-evaluate our decision."
I noticed that your email is "ornerymk" and I couldn't help but chuckle. I was an "ornery pk" having grown up in a pastor's family, with all the cliches and hypocrisy that comes with that experience. But at some point I realized that the mistakes of others shouldn't become the foundation of mine. I hope that whatever your experiences were, and are, that the truth of God's grace in Jesus Christ has become the most prominent thing in your life, as you try to break the cycle and pass on something righteous and good to your kids.
Thanks again for your email, and your concern. I pray that your sister, and all the other victims and their families, can find the peace that surpasses understanding in all this.
Yours for the Truth of Christ,
David
David W. Hegg
Senior Pastor
Grace Baptist Church
david.hegg@gracebaptist.org
This paster is a babtits just like our crutch and he can spell and is smart so is that enough for you or do you just want to make fun of the foolish things of the whorl that god has chosen to share his word I am not ashame and I am proud of Pater Hegg he is for the truth of Christ and the whore situation has fallen down on Mel Wymas head and he is sorry and repanted and lets just drop it he is old give him a brake.
I assed my paster about this and he agrees and we are all preying that your sister and all the other whiney MKs will find the piece that passes all understanding in this and shut up and go away we are tired of it what part of enough do you no t understand?
God loves you have a nice day and lets put Christ back in Christmas amen?
Tuesday, December 13, 2011
gays
Gays does not mean happy people it means hormoresexuals or pepole who do not love the oppostie sex. For instance men who love men or women who love women or gays who love gays and some who would go after anything that will have them they are sick.
You can make a muck at sin if you want to but god says that is not wise that means its foolish. I cannot belief how rude and crude and stupid and sex crazed all the pople on the Fodle Eagles web site are do not blame the broading shcool it is your choize.
NTM does not take gays do you know of any mission that does? Well NTM is just like the rest of them only better because they are called of God to preach to all the tribes in the world not work in cities with sinners who already have rejected the messoge of holiness and happiness and I do not mean gay.
Gay people and CAthlics and Jahovahs Whiteness can all be saved beacuse god loves them but hates the sin dont' you ever read you bible Befused? You cannot help that you were not born in Amrica but you can get along with Aermicans if you try there is no need to be so stuck up about it are you gay? or diveroced? or Cathlic?
I lvoe NTM and you try to make it sound like everyone who is in NTM hates MKs hell many of them ARE Mks did you know that if you will forgive my language sometimes I speak in toungues. I dont' know who is worst you or TwoMothers or Gene Log or Raz or Shitting Duck I sure miss Sherpa Dud he lvoed NTM and forgave them.
I dont' blame him for not pissting on this site anymore it is a waist of time but I get many emails encoraging me and some are from NTM missioanrys two. My paster even went to NTM bible shool and leanred about the bible there but he did not go to the field he wasnt' called he was Babtits.
So do not make any more jokes about sin or ponorgrahpy and do not send me any pictures of naked women that is not what Larry Brown meant did you ever read his good sermon on Nahum? I will piist it again soon it was a blessing to me and I bet to all the NTM missionarys around the world he is their leader what does Raz mean she doesnt' know whose in charge that is crazy.
Learn to forgive and take world missins seriously this is not a joke and for gods sake quit talking about abuse you have made your point now shut up.
God bless you all I lvoe you and NTM and so does Jesus.
You can make a muck at sin if you want to but god says that is not wise that means its foolish. I cannot belief how rude and crude and stupid and sex crazed all the pople on the Fodle Eagles web site are do not blame the broading shcool it is your choize.
NTM does not take gays do you know of any mission that does? Well NTM is just like the rest of them only better because they are called of God to preach to all the tribes in the world not work in cities with sinners who already have rejected the messoge of holiness and happiness and I do not mean gay.
Gay people and CAthlics and Jahovahs Whiteness can all be saved beacuse god loves them but hates the sin dont' you ever read you bible Befused? You cannot help that you were not born in Amrica but you can get along with Aermicans if you try there is no need to be so stuck up about it are you gay? or diveroced? or Cathlic?
I lvoe NTM and you try to make it sound like everyone who is in NTM hates MKs hell many of them ARE Mks did you know that if you will forgive my language sometimes I speak in toungues. I dont' know who is worst you or TwoMothers or Gene Log or Raz or Shitting Duck I sure miss Sherpa Dud he lvoed NTM and forgave them.
I dont' blame him for not pissting on this site anymore it is a waist of time but I get many emails encoraging me and some are from NTM missioanrys two. My paster even went to NTM bible shool and leanred about the bible there but he did not go to the field he wasnt' called he was Babtits.
So do not make any more jokes about sin or ponorgrahpy and do not send me any pictures of naked women that is not what Larry Brown meant did you ever read his good sermon on Nahum? I will piist it again soon it was a blessing to me and I bet to all the NTM missionarys around the world he is their leader what does Raz mean she doesnt' know whose in charge that is crazy.
Learn to forgive and take world missins seriously this is not a joke and for gods sake quit talking about abuse you have made your point now shut up.
God bless you all I lvoe you and NTM and so does Jesus.
Sunday, December 11, 2011
OMG what bull!
Some lier name Chris Horgan wrote this on the Fondle EAgles website:
And some fool actually beliefed him that peoplle killed theirselfs because they left NTM that is not what he said he just said he knows people who ended there own lifes he never says they were in NTM cant' you read? Wehre is Gene Log when you need him out with Shitting Duck I suppose.
If this lie was true it wuold not even be a lie. But it is not true and if was true it sure as hell wasnt' Larry Brown's fault he wasnt' even in leadershit back then in fact all those leaders are retried now and NTM has a hole new bunch of godly leaders to take over and do things right as the Lord leads them even as the lord lead the old bunch they were godly people.
Peoplle get fried from all kinds of jobs not just NTM and they dont' kill theirselfs over it not most of the time and if this really happened how bout some names hot shot they are dead so they cant' suet you? Anybody can say anything and tehre are always gallable fools who will belief anything anyone says well I beleif NTM and I know they would not lie beaucwe I have met them and they have preached in my church and my paster likes them and has Chris Horeman ever preached in you crutch Eligah III? Get reel.
NTM is already doing the right thing they are preaching the gosple to the heathens before the Cathlics or Jahoovers Whitness can mess them up and if they dont' these peeple will die and go to hell that would be a shame and a waste of souls and money. Expecially money.
So please just bake off from NTM and let them due there things and no wonder they dont' answer all you idiots out their you write the most dumb stuff and try to make them look bad but they are looking god to me have you visited there website lately it is much prettyer than the Fodle Eaglaes site.
My god bless all those who bless NTM and cuss those who dont' love NTM and Larry Brown is a godly man and was a MK himslfef and was not ever molestated.
Amen?
...It was my experience too.
I left ntm in January 1992. Even today the shame I feel at allowing myself to be part of an organisation that is as controlling and abusive as ntm is haunts me...
I was part of the leadership and a committee member in Australia. After I left I found as many people who suffered under ntm when I was a part of it, whether they were still members or not, and asked their forgiveness for my actions.
I know of people that have ended their lives, and some that have tried. I know of people who are so damaged by their experience they cannot speak of it. I know of people who cannot return to their faith...
I left ntm in January 1992. Even today the shame I feel at allowing myself to be part of an organisation that is as controlling and abusive as ntm is haunts me...
I was part of the leadership and a committee member in Australia. After I left I found as many people who suffered under ntm when I was a part of it, whether they were still members or not, and asked their forgiveness for my actions.
I know of people that have ended their lives, and some that have tried. I know of people who are so damaged by their experience they cannot speak of it. I know of people who cannot return to their faith...
And some fool actually beliefed him that peoplle killed theirselfs because they left NTM that is not what he said he just said he knows people who ended there own lifes he never says they were in NTM cant' you read? Wehre is Gene Log when you need him out with Shitting Duck I suppose.
If this lie was true it wuold not even be a lie. But it is not true and if was true it sure as hell wasnt' Larry Brown's fault he wasnt' even in leadershit back then in fact all those leaders are retried now and NTM has a hole new bunch of godly leaders to take over and do things right as the Lord leads them even as the lord lead the old bunch they were godly people.
Peoplle get fried from all kinds of jobs not just NTM and they dont' kill theirselfs over it not most of the time and if this really happened how bout some names hot shot they are dead so they cant' suet you? Anybody can say anything and tehre are always gallable fools who will belief anything anyone says well I beleif NTM and I know they would not lie beaucwe I have met them and they have preached in my church and my paster likes them and has Chris Horeman ever preached in you crutch Eligah III? Get reel.
NTM is already doing the right thing they are preaching the gosple to the heathens before the Cathlics or Jahoovers Whitness can mess them up and if they dont' these peeple will die and go to hell that would be a shame and a waste of souls and money. Expecially money.
So please just bake off from NTM and let them due there things and no wonder they dont' answer all you idiots out their you write the most dumb stuff and try to make them look bad but they are looking god to me have you visited there website lately it is much prettyer than the Fodle Eaglaes site.
My god bless all those who bless NTM and cuss those who dont' love NTM and Larry Brown is a godly man and was a MK himslfef and was not ever molestated.
Amen?
Thursday, December 8, 2011
NTM is not bastards!
Here is the kind of prayer that people who support the Fondle Eagles preys:
I got that right off the home page of this blessphemy web site and it made me sick to my stomick. Who says bastard when they prey? And who preys in her own name? I can tell that this person is not even saved or htey would not talk this way about a orgasmination that was raised up by the Lord I just wnat to know what people who say I use profanny have to say about this.
NTM missionarys are not basturds they love the Lord and they are trying to reach the lost heathen of the world or either help design good web pages for NTM or mow the grass at headwarters or other impotent things to help the missionarys who are not bastards they are children of God.
NTM doesnt' let jsut any old person join they have to meat the qualifications of elders and pasters and they can not be divorced or drunk or gay or lesbiterian and it might be OK if they are all white but that can be waved if they have enough support.
My paster likes NTM or I should say he loves it and I sure do we support many NTM missionarys all of them good people not bastards and they did not do anything to any MKs why is Thai MK always whining? Get a life please.
Jesus loves you and he loves NTM and so do I have a nice day and put the Jesus back in Christmas.
Dear God, in the faces of so many victims and survivors, and for those who did not survive this atrocity, we humbly ask that thou shalt shut down this New Tribe Mission, in the atonement for the crimes that have been committed against humanity. O Lord prosecute these bastards for condoning such an act and failed their courage to act, in thy very humble name and mine, I do pray, Amen.
I got that right off the home page of this blessphemy web site and it made me sick to my stomick. Who says bastard when they prey? And who preys in her own name? I can tell that this person is not even saved or htey would not talk this way about a orgasmination that was raised up by the Lord I just wnat to know what people who say I use profanny have to say about this.
NTM missionarys are not basturds they love the Lord and they are trying to reach the lost heathen of the world or either help design good web pages for NTM or mow the grass at headwarters or other impotent things to help the missionarys who are not bastards they are children of God.
NTM doesnt' let jsut any old person join they have to meat the qualifications of elders and pasters and they can not be divorced or drunk or gay or lesbiterian and it might be OK if they are all white but that can be waved if they have enough support.
My paster likes NTM or I should say he loves it and I sure do we support many NTM missionarys all of them good people not bastards and they did not do anything to any MKs why is Thai MK always whining? Get a life please.
Jesus loves you and he loves NTM and so do I have a nice day and put the Jesus back in Christmas.
Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Your all hycoprites!
So let me get this straight. All of the MKs want to shut down NTM and they want all the NTM missionarys who are called of God and love Jesus to quite because a few carnal dorm farters supposedly molested a few kids and it may not even be ture and for witch NTM has alraedy said they are sorry.
But now I see where you all think that Cathlics reflect the life of Christ well why are they still in the Cathlic Crutch? Maybe you never heard about all the gay preists that have molested boys and even grills and are of the devul why arent' you telling all your wonderful Cathlic fiends to get out of the Cathlic Crutch? You just hate NTM and there work.
Maybe you dont' know it but the Cathlics have been at this since before there ever even was a NTM and they have covered it up and lyed about it and hanged little plastic Marys around the necks of children and told them they would go to heaven and sent them to hell becsue they didnt' even tel them the true gopsel and they send there preists into the whore world and preach damnable hearsays I guess that is really good.
NTM is so bad but the Cathlics are good I guess you sure have it all fingered out now dont' you? What hycoprites you our!
I love NTM and I am glad they do not have Cathlics or divorced people or gays or Libertarians or other perverts in there mission like the Cathlics do.
Thank you jesus for NTM and I prey that the hycoprites will repant.
But now I see where you all think that Cathlics reflect the life of Christ well why are they still in the Cathlic Crutch? Maybe you never heard about all the gay preists that have molested boys and even grills and are of the devul why arent' you telling all your wonderful Cathlic fiends to get out of the Cathlic Crutch? You just hate NTM and there work.
Maybe you dont' know it but the Cathlics have been at this since before there ever even was a NTM and they have covered it up and lyed about it and hanged little plastic Marys around the necks of children and told them they would go to heaven and sent them to hell becsue they didnt' even tel them the true gopsel and they send there preists into the whore world and preach damnable hearsays I guess that is really good.
NTM is so bad but the Cathlics are good I guess you sure have it all fingered out now dont' you? What hycoprites you our!
I love NTM and I am glad they do not have Cathlics or divorced people or gays or Libertarians or other perverts in there mission like the Cathlics do.
Thank you jesus for NTM and I prey that the hycoprites will repant.
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